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  • How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

    This is how I normally do to identify ali baba scammers, with this, you should be ok for quite some time.

    First of all, I do Google search with the name of the company and the word scam. Normally, there should be no page with the company listed with the word scam next to them but if you see at least one, maybe it is a scam. No need to have several pages, only one is necessary.

    Secondly, I go on a very good website, fraudwatchers.org who have a list of all website and company listed as scam. They just saved me from sending sample to a scam company.

    And thirdly, just ask people around on forums just like this one. I saw a mate who've done that.

    Fourth steps is that you can verify the address they gave you and find out what's really on this. Go on The Official WhitePages - Find People for Free and enter the address they gave you to find out if the address is really registered as their business address or at least at their names.

    Fifth test is to ask them to phone you. Normally scammers won't do this but beware, some also tries to call you. Please be aware that some scammers uses call redirection which is call callback (I'm not sure of that) or they can use fax to email. Using this, they get number that are listed in U.S.A., U.K. or any European country where in reality, they are located elsewhere.

    Sixth, alway inquire about the mail address. This is a mistake scammers often made. Try to see whether the email address comes from a free mail server. Suppose you get a mail from [email protected], be sure this is a scam. The mail address (it truely exist and they tried to scam me) is not from the Cameroon government, but from a free mail server. This is how I caught my first scammer.

    Seventh and last advice for the time being; JUST COME AND ASK ME. Yes, you can come and ask me and I'll help you. I've been for so much time victim of scammer, who fortunately failed in their attempts, that I've got some pretty much experience.

    This is approximately all I can remember for the time being but again, if you need advices, feel free to contact me, it's free

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    re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

    Here are two chinese scammer companies . stay away from these companies

    1. Shijiazhuang Zhongqifeng Commerce And Trade Co., Ltd.
    person name - Lei Zheng,

    2. Shandong Sida Industry and Trade Corp. Ltd.
    person name - Vinas Wang, Penny Lin and Selina chen,

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    • #3
      Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

      Forget Alibaba! Use the Verified Suppliers available at Global Sources (www.globalsources.com). They been in business since 1971 -- very trustworthy. Global Sources also runs China Sourcing Fairs -- giant trade events held in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Dubai and Mumbai, where you can meet suppliers vface to face before doing business with them. (More info is on their website.)

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      • #4
        Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

        yeah globalsources has some legit suppliers unlike alibaba scammers

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          Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

          alibaba scammers = chinese scammers

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          • #6
            Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

            Thanks elinchu, very useful!
            Working in the apparel business

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            • #7
              Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

              Majority of Alibaba’s suppliers are legitimate businesses. However, you must research on the credibility of an online supplier before you buy, just as you would with a real-life business partner. Alibaba is only a platform between the buyers and the suppliers, nothing more. They do not own inventory but simply connect buyers with sellers.

              Using escrow as a form of payment instead of Western Union is one way of protecting yourself. If you need more tips, browse through Alibaba forums. Be wise and the opportunity will be unlimited.

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              • #8
                Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                Well, it's an interesting threat!

                However, we do have some free and practical tips to help business people avoid Chinese Fraud and Scam from the viewpoint of the local knowledge.

                Article link: OrientCredit: China Credit Checks, Due Diligence, Background Checks and Market Research

                You can contact me if you want to know more about China company verification and credit status checking. We are a local Chinese company verification and credit reporting agency, and we can help clients to verify their business license as well as assess the credit situation of their Chinese partners.

                Please visit our website if you need more assistance.
                Website: www(dot)OrientCredit(dot)com
                China Credit Reporting| China Due Diligence| China Background Checks| China Market Research

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                • #9
                  Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                  Never pay by Western Union.

                  No legit business handles payments that way.

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                  • #10
                    Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                    Hi I would like to know about the Shenzhen Bingyu Trade Ltd. on Alibaba. All that you said seems to be ok with them. The website looks legit, the address is registered, I even found a phone number I want to call tomorrow and I could not found anything with that company name and scam. They do seem to be a new company but please let me know what you think about them before I buy anything from them. Thanks so much for your advices. Cenia

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                    • #11
                      Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                      I am afraid it's not ok for the company. Cant find it on Alibaba now, besides, owning a private bank account, not a company account.

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                      • #12
                        Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                        hello ELINCHU, i was wondering if you would look up 2 alibaba suppliers for me.

                        I am going to follow your steps to see if i can figure out if this company is legit but i would also appreciate your help too.

                        the first company is:

                        Shanghai Godier Electronics Co., Ltd.

                        Contact Information for Shanghai Godier Electronics Co., Ltd.

                        and the second is:

                        Shanghai Dianshi International Trade Co., Ltd.

                        please respond to my email (as i am not a registered user of this forum)

                        [email protected]


                        thanks!

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                        • #13
                          Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                          What I want to know is what is China doing about how bad these scammers are. I have a bad taste in my mount about Alibaba. Sure, it is a middle man but so is Amazon. However, they do a much better job at catching scammers than Alibaba. Sellers do not get paid immediately. All sellers have to wait to get paid. This gives buyers times to get their product or get their money back if they do not. Concerning Alibaba's Escrow service, it is almost a joke too. The sellers have to sign. Since it is not required for many of the have it most do not sign up for it.

                          I was scammed by an American company on Alibaba.They refused to remove the company from their website. I had to go to the Attorney General in that state to get my money back from the company.

                          Not a fan of Alibaba BECAUSE THEY COULD DO BETTER AS MIDDLE MEN

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                          • #14
                            Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                            Retain a local lawyer to do a background check is a good start. Chinese government has pretty strict rules in setting up a company. All companies properly registered in China must pass government led annual audit, must have minimum registered capital as requestd by law. The company's information including shareholding structure, financial statements, business scope etc. can be dig out by a local lawyer from the registration office of the local government which are not accessible by public.

                            A China enforceable sale of goods contract is also important for all the traders.

                            A background check only costs US$200-300. You can contact Shanghai lawyer Jian Zhang @ [email protected] for any trade related services.

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                            • #15
                              Re: How to identify Chinese ali baba scammers from legit suppliers

                              Hi Elinchu,

                              That column surely has very useful information.

                              I have a company here which has something interesting, though they not mention any payment methods they have a local phone number and a registration address, there are no hits from google either. However it kind of bothers me that they have an address in Beijing and an Office in Hong Kong. What can you tell us about it?

                              Wan Chou Peg LTD.

                              Contacts | Wan Chou Peg LTD.

                              Thank you for your time and advise,

                              George

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